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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204149965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204149965">(Jul 16 2020 at 22:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey all! <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> So I regularly forget to release new versions of things or even what state things are in, so I had a half-baked thought of trying to process our way out of it a bit by:</p>
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<li>Having a sync up on where a bunch of libs are at at the start of Rust's 6-week release cycle</li>
<li>Automating publishing those libs to <code>crates.io</code> by PRing <code>main</code> to <code>release</code></li>
<li>Have a release-a-thon for all the libs towards the end of Rust's 6-week release cycle</li>
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<p>What do you all think? Would anybody be interested in meeting a bit more regularly to catch up on all the libraries and RFCs and things we care about?</p>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> you might be interested in this <span aria-label="point of information" class="emoji emoji-261d" role="img" title="point of information">:point_of_information:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204150521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Amanieu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204150521">(Jul 16 2020 at 22:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I definitely think we should be meeting more regularly.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204151278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204151278">(Jul 16 2020 at 22:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>The 2 weeks that we used to do seemed a bit often, but maybe once every 6 weeks would be enough?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204152953" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Steven Fackler <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204152953">(Jul 16 2020 at 22:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>That sounds good to me. We can always adjust upwards!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204153371" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204153371">(Jul 16 2020 at 22:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>Definitely interested <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61d" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span> I like the idea though I'm not sure whether we should automate the releases or not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204190890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204190890">(Jul 17 2020 at 10:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> We don’t necessarily have to publish automatically <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span> It would be a little more busy work to keep track of, but with a list to work off it shouldn’t be too bad</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204191273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204191273">(Jul 17 2020 at 10:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is sometime next week too short notice for everyone? Maybe it would be worth meeting first to look at broad things, where some of the RFCs are at, anything we’ve got in the works that could benefit from some input, any project groups we think should exist, how the sharing of standard library implementation with the compiler is going?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204233714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pickfire <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204233714">(Jul 17 2020 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can I join too? I never join any meetings and I wonder how it is.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204238698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204238698">(Jul 17 2020 at 18:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would be interested too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204274002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204274002">(Jul 18 2020 at 00:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure! The more the merrier <span aria-label="grinning face with smiling eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f601" role="img" title="grinning face with smiling eyes">:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="220273">@Jane Lusby</span> would you be interested too? Did we ever properly spin up a project group for you?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204274270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204274270">(Jul 18 2020 at 00:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I haven't submitted the proposal yet. I've been spending most of my free time recently working on my rustconf talk, but I hope to have all the paperwork done soon.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204274321" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204274321">(Jul 18 2020 at 00:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>so not yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204275941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204275941">(Jul 18 2020 at 01:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>That’s right! It’s coming up next month</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204276562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204276562">(Jul 18 2020 at 01:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think next week might be too short. Given that you are in a timezone which is almost half a day ahead <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61d" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span> how about sending a doodle to everyone so we can pick a time suitable for most? <span aria-label="grinning" class="emoji emoji-1f600" role="img" title="grinning">:grinning:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204277375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pickfire <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204277375">(Jul 18 2020 at 01:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="209117">@lzutao</span> is interested as well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204281807" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204281807">(Jul 18 2020 at 03:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>That’s a good idea <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span> I’ll make a scratch doc with the next few weeks on it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204281886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204281886">(Jul 18 2020 at 03:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I guess there’s also the meta question of whether we’re still really “libs” or whether we’re more “standards”</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204347361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lzutao <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204347361">(Jul 19 2020 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="225422">pickfire</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle/near/204277375">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I wonder if <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="209117">lzutao</span> is interested as well.</p>
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<p>Not sure what is this topic about?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204355871" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204355871">(Jul 19 2020 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Joining a lib team meeting about release cycle and other things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204356079" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lzutao <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204356079">(Jul 19 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks. But release cycle of which libraries/crates/things?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204356754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204356754">(Jul 19 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Hey all! <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> So I regularly forget to release new versions of things or even what state things are in, so I had a half-baked thought of trying to process our way out of it a bit by:</p>
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<li>Having a sync up on where a bunch of libs are at at the start of Rust's 6-week release cycle</li>
<li>Automating publishing those libs to <code>crates.io</code> by PRing <code>main</code> to <code>release</code></li>
<li>Have a release-a-thon for all the libs towards the end of Rust's 6-week release cycle</li>
</ul>
<p>What do you all think? Would anybody be interested in meeting a bit more regularly to catch up on all the libraries and RFCs and things we care about?<br>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204356769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204356769">(Jul 19 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>(From <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs%20release%20cycle/near/204426725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pickfire <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/219381-t-libs/topic/libs.20release.20cycle.html#204426725">(Jul 20 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>So we are publishing the libs to crates, does that mean we could easily clone and build them without building rust-lang/rust itself? If that's the case, then it would be interesting, I wish the building time for libs can be reduced.</p>



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